There is not one word about a supposed confession in the article from the Corsicana paper. But that's not a reasonable conclusion based on her inconsistent statements.Really who you should blame for this line of argument isn't the media but her family members who gave affidavits about what she'd supposedly said at a private family meeting. Here are the links so readers don't have to go on the spin by the New Yorker or Chicago Tribune.http://www.corsicanadailysun.com/archivesearch/local_story_246091758.htmlhttp://www.star-telegram.com/texas/story/1709042.htmlKeep in mind that in a newspaper story, you never know what the questions were or what the reporter left out of the response. Amazing how the subject gets lost when folks seem to only want to vent their own bias. He saidshe saidyada yada yada! I lived in that hellhole for 25 years and I finally got out. Accidents do NOT happen and this fire was NO accident. And the odd thing is that I've not broken any laws that I'm aware of, there's no real reason for any of this. But (and this is addressed not only to the commenter but to Grits and David Grann)-- can't we argue our points without attacking Stacy Kuykendall and calling her a liar and worse?Try to imagine what she went through. In her statement to the Star-Telegram Stacy says when she got to the hospital she asked Todd why her children were dead and he was still alive and Todd had nothing to say. Therefore, your argument that he has a right to defend himself is misleading. The fire was NOT started by electricity or by gas. He was predeceased by : his parents, Floyd Hardy Kuykendall and Clara Cleora . No amount of cyber bullying will make Willingham guilty . What a different story this would be if four had died instead of three.What a different story this would have been if two had died instead of three! Then she stabbed another man and he died. We all miss him so much.Because I believe in a God, I look forward to seeing my beloved brother again someday. And you say he is innocent?He had full review by every court in this country many, many times and they upheld his guilt every time. 2-13-21 Stacy Kuykendall.jpg | | corsicanadailysun.com Myths and Facts about the Willingham Case - Innocence Project And out of dozens of posts I wonder how I hit a nerve.I don't know what happened but I can say for sure that today there is certainly reasonable doubt. Details in Stacy Kuykendall recent statements contradict what she said in multiple statements to law enforcement authorities, letters to Willingham and attorneys, and under oath at his trial. Let's look at the views of 10 families whose loved ones were taken.Many of the victims families expected closure after last nights execution of John Allen Muhammad, the DC Sniper who killed 10 people over a three week period in 2002. Now if you can show me proof positive that he willfully and deliberately set the fire with the intention of causing the death of his children, I'll say okay. You are not. That is no confession to murder.I think it's possible that Todd felt so guilty about his cowardice that he believed he deserved to die just as much as everyone else did.In any case this latest "revelation" doesn't change a thing. Where Is Stacy Kuykendall Now? - The Cinemaholic The general feeling is that they were given an additional burden to carry and there is no place to direct these emotions. He killed her. Now she wants to pretend she was just young, innocent and naive like her three daughters.GTFO! The point is she uttered an inconsistency. We have an interview with the original arson investigator who sounds like he regards any advancements in the science since 1970 as witchcraft. I fact, I thought you were adamant that Willingham could have saved his older child.Willingham may have been guilty as sin but the source of the fire has proved questionable. We don't know if Beyler's failure to interview this key witness was due to simple incompetence or if he was intentionally avoiding the truth in a perverted attempt to maintain plausible deniability. Don't project, SB. The ONLY question should be is IF the killer did it or not.Then the next question should be, WHEN to execute the murdererand that's all.Anyone who opposes the death penalty, opposes justice for the victim, and is uncivilized, and extremely barbaric. He departed this life and entered into eternal peace on January 6, 2020. Woodward. I'm not sure anyone can feel sorry for that guy. Stacy Kuykendall Grim. Woman who witnessed 300 executions haunted by child killer's death And what gives them the right to refuse to call it murder and persecute people who in good conscience oppose it.I used to be against the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd monthuntil I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. "I meant: "Anti-death penalty people do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer. Anonymous at 9:41 AM,I have not claimed you lied, or called anything that you said BS, or claimed that you said something that you did not. I think that Mr. Willingham's story that his eldest daughter (Amber, IIRC) woke him up is at least as problematic for those who believe the fire was arson as for those who believe the fire was accidental. We know that man is certified in modern arson investigation and has disputed Beyler's claims. Throughout the process, Stacy Kuykendall, Willingham's former wife and the mother of the three victims, has maintained that he was guilty of the murders. One story said he was more interested in saving his car, though one could speculate that perhaps he moved the car because it was something he could do to aid in the firefighters effort to rescue his children. What the evidence was then, irrespective of it's form, should be weighed into account with new advancements in technology to determine once and forever if Willingham was a guilty person.If innocent, place a moratorium on the death penalty until we have better conclusive evidence in these matters. That is not a violation of privilege. But read what she said then and what she's saying now to see if she changed her story. He said that his two year old daughter Amber woke him up from a nap and alerted him to the fire. Also, my cousin in another state was murdered by her husband, and again, it was covered up by the so-called "justice system" and law enforcementanother "accidental death". The whole attorney client privilege issue has been discussed by attorneys .A few real defense attorneys discuss Martins unethical behavior here http://www.capitaldefenseweekly.com/blog/?p=5101Some case law in case you are so inclined to read it . SB,You might be thinking of the anonymous poster who was sparring with me. I was almost murdered in a housefireit was a firebomb. Does the science used at the time stand up to scrutiny? "One viewer of the Anderson video said that at first he thought that Mr. Martin was the prosecutor! She committed three 1st-degree murders, and an attempted 1st-degree murder, yet she was never charged in the other 2 murders, nor in the attempted 1st-degree murder. They said he moved his car away to prevent it being scorched but made no effort to save the girls. Any business knows you cannot stay status quo and continue to exist. After all this hit the news, became the possible case that proves that Texas has put an innocent man to death, has everyone from The Hair all the way down to the so called defense attorney (Please God may we never find ourselves ever in a position where we are forced to rely on the likes of that particular individual for our safety, freedom and well being in a courtroom!) For one, I've read far too many conflicting reports of what happened that day. Obituary Bud Kuykendall, age 92, passed away peacefully on Monday, January 11, 2021 at his home in Sandia, Texas. When he was observed initially, he showed no emotion. Death Notice. All their covering up does is cause the media to dig deeper that they do not get it shows how arrogant and out of touch with reality they are . Waurika. He clearly is guiltyno doubt about it. Bobby Gene Kuykendall May 30, 1964 - November 27, 2022 IN THE CARE OF Nunnelee Funeral Chapel Bobby Gene Kuykendall, age 58, passed away on November 27, 2022 at Southeast Hospital in Cape Girardeau, MO. He was never married nor did he have any kids. William Kuykendall Obituary - Pickens, SC - Dignity Memorial He figured someday. One person cannot bring about change and most people don't worry about it.The abuse of power is everywhere. Not for reacting badly in emergencies. And do it again and again and again and keep your story straightall the while realizing that any father who doesn't give his life for the sake of his babies is worthless in the eyes of the rest of the human race, and is probably better off dead too.Yea, there is no reason for his inconsistent statements but that he set the fire, and those taken together with the rock artist posters in the laundry room are proof that he was a devil worshiper and deserved to die.I guess it's just that the whole world is against Texas because they are so independent minded after winning the war with Mexico andblah blah blah. So much for that.Everything I said is the absolute truth. Killing an innocent who the local authorities wanted dead could only be a feather in his cap. If you are protecting your conscience because you don't want to admit a mistake was made and you might be responsible, then I too would be reluctant to step up to the plate. You never stop making shit up. Not only confessed, but confessed during a visit which by all accounts would have been recorded by the state. It does not matter who or what they are. Nor am I going to call a fellow inmate who testified that Willingham confessed to him a liar either. This just reads like one of those Government conspiracy novels and they are covering their bases! But it's not a novel.or a flick..or something I heard from my crazy neighbor who believes.forget that, don't want to go there. This looks like more than one person got cuaght in a huge lie and now is very desperate to get out of it . Stacy was unharmed as she was out Christmas shopping at the time. I claimed only that Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not raise ineffective counsel, not that he never raised this issue; please stop uttering falsehoods.The more important issue is whether Mr. Martins present comments are within professional norms. Welcome to Texas justice: You might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride. Another correction:Paragraph 6, I said "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her caselack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly true. On a side note to Anon 11:15, that particular bit of nonsense isn't going to cut it. If the locals in Corsicana decided that Willingham deserved to die, then the people who vote in this state -- the people who Goodhair depends on -- think he ought to be dead. Why don' people wait until a recording of the alleged confession is released . Mr. Martin disclosed a work product (the burn experiment), which he should not have done. Government is the only enity that is allowed that choice. He got mad and took the bait. The cognitive dissonance would drive anyone crazy.The final death-row conversation is truly ambiguous. Disclosing a work-product was unethical, and this particular instance of it suggests that Mr. Martin is incapable of assimilating new information. Susan (Stafford) Kuykendall of Coal City | Obituaries | wcsjnews.com Not that the behavior of Gov Goodhair John Bradly and the disgraceful defense attorney and the fanatical Pros have been a stellar example of doing everyth9ongot look as if you have something to lose and hide by him being innocent . You are the ultimate troll. It is time to stop the persecution, convictions and even executions of those that are disliked. He accepted Christ and baptized on December 31, 2014. Execution is a one-time shot unless someone messes up. Obituary | Isaiah Marquise Kuykendall of Ruther Glen, Virginia | C.W You anti-death penalty activists reek of hypocrisy when they slam the "bad science" of the on-site arson investigators while simultaneously defending the flawed and incomplete methodology of the Beyler report. On December 23, 1991, fire gutted the home where Cameron Todd Willingham, then 23, lived with his wife, Stacy Kuykendall, and the couple's three daughters: two-year-old Amber Kuykendall and one-year-old twins Karmon Willingham and Kameron Willingham. I used it because in a number of conversations about this case, it was brought up. You linked to something that links to a case. It is obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about but are arrogant to think you are qualified to give legal opinions. Facts don't matter to these people. And you tell me this monster and scumbag and murderer of 3 innocent little girls is innocent?If he were innocent, then those 3 adorable little girls would still be alive.He deserved execution for these cruel, vicious murders and he got a gentle death for the vicious, cruel, inhumane, and heinous murders of his 3 daughters.Goodbye, and good riddance, monster and scumbag!The report by Beyler is a pack of lies, gross errors and distortions of the truth, and extreme anti-death penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty fanatics who will stop at nothing to deprive the surviving relatives of murder victims of any justice and closure by doing any ridiculous stunt possible to stop the rightful carrying out of the death penalty to vicious, mad dog killers who deserve execution.All they talk about is the murderernot a word about the victim or what they suffered.The city of Corsicana had their Fire Department issue a 21-page rebuttal to the pack of lies by Beyler which is chock-full of death-penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty extremists. I have to agree, Chris. I will write more if I have time later.Chris. That's not my fault, but if that's how her family, the newspaper and city government in Corsicana are going to engage in the debate, IMO others shouldn't be criticized for publicly evaluating the credibility of the conflicting claims being presented. For one, I've read far too many conflicting reports of what happened that day. No one can say exactly how they will or will not act in a traumatic event or events . Far from being an ambush, the Chicago Tribune reporter went out of his way to hand Mr. Martin an opportunity to explain himself, noting that the arson expert Mr. Martin had consulted had later changed his mind about what the evidence did or did not show. Jean, we certainly agree that the system lacks justice. There may well be a case somewhere in this country where an innocent was executed. So two weeks before his execution Willingham's brainstorm to save his ass was to confess to the mother of the three babies he murdered, after having 13 years to think about it, in the hope this would convince her to write a letter asking for clemency?Really?Yeah, really. She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder. Others have pointed out that his report does not rule out arson. Why? Feel sorry for me and write a damn letter asking for a pardon for me. He didn't have money to buy innocence and kids do start fires. His story changed, I understand, 27 times. Dont hold your breath as long as the wig is Governor. Maybe the neighbors were wrong but it doesn't matter. Call it what you will, conservative political ideology, blame it on religion, too many years of chronic inbreeding, or something in the water, but I've traveled to some interesting places in my life and of all of them, including the ones with bombs blowing up things, the ones where you could get shot at for kicks, the ones where you could disappear for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time or where you must deal with officials who would sell their mother into prostitution on a whim, Texas is the one place that really scares me. Click to read and leave tributes https://insideeko.com/stacy-kuykendall-obituary-death-dead/ insideeko.com Did you know these family members? I don't trust laws they make. Not for being cowards who don't save their own children. Join Facebook to connect with Stacy Kuykendall Willinghamgirlslivesmattered and others you may know. The system is corrupt but nowhere is as bad as FL. Tags Amber Kuykendall. Why would he not say that the smoke woke him up? Maybe Stacy can get with Rick Perry and they can get there lieuhmI mean story together. None of this is new. Fond memories and expressions of sympathy may be shared at www.MountVernonMemorial.com for the Kuykendall family. But if she's going to put herself out there and espouse positions that contradict her previous claims, including ones made under oath, IMO it's impossible to consider her statements without openly discussing that "dissonance," as you put it. If I remember correctly, he was convicted and executed for purposely setting the fire that killed those children, not for making no attempt to save them. However, if Mr. Willingham set the fire deliberately, why would he make up the story that Amber woke him up when such a story raises the question of why he did not save her? They hung her out to dry, then she changes her story to support their statements when the Corsicana Sun and their city manager begin waving their hearsay claims around as proof of Willingham's guilt. Look at O. J. He was of the Baptist faith and a. I am a housefire survivor myself. Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. Not without the scientific evidence to firmly back up that the fire was deliberate arson. His behavior was pretty incriminating and his statements tooall this apart from the physical evidence. This is looking like Goodhair and company have something serious to hide. Since almost all IAC claims require evidence outside the record, they are not raised in an appeal. Ex-wife: Willingham killed 3 kids in arson case It has a blood stain about 2 feet acrossI believe. Obituary: Bobby Kuykendall (11/29/22) | Standard Democrat at 10:15,A person's interests last beyond their lifetime. Each request was denied. Nothing would make them more proud.Remember the last president? What motive would Stacy have to lie about something like this after all this time. Correction again: I said in my 1:46 pm post: "I used to be against the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd monthuntil I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. Tuttle. They've got plenty of those on Polunsky:). Sounds to me like a mother of three murdered girls who is just trying to set the record straight. If he did not do it . And, no, you have not been civil. He said he had been called "Hambone" for so long that he felt like it was his name and he felt strange when he was called by his name James.We all love him so much. Agreed, Chris. Willingham's Ex-Wife: "He Watched While Their Tiny Bodies Burned" She was the daughter of Phillip Allen Kuykendall and Rachel Heatherly. What a different story this would be if four had died instead of three. Our brother was their "amigo". He is Either Dudley Crawford Sharp III or one of his JFA Neo Nazis fanatics . And you could try reading your own authority and stop lying and misleading everyone first. Or do you not get it ? Why are you denying the scientific truth? He was born on May 30, 1964 in Sikeston, MO. He said that he yelled at her and then exited the house, leaving Amber and the twin infants inside to die.A confession to what? You just have to know the right people, have enough clout, and enough money and you can do like OJ didcommit any murders you want and walk away scot-free without punishment.Any ideas, any comments?Jean. My whole family knows that James was murdered and so said the coroner who did the autopsy on my murdered brother. TDCJ EX seems like a law professor compared to you.Whatever. Look it up yourself. Just a bad one finally did him in.Any ideas, any comments?Jean, Correction again. 7:00 asks, "can't we argue our points without attacking Stacy Kuykendall and calling her a liar and worse"?I've mostly tried on this blog to stick to the forensic issues, and to my knowledge I haven't called Kuykendall anything "worse" than a liar. He had a way with women and treated them real nice. Anon @9:21AM:"It's murder by arson to set the fire and allow the children to die, but if he did not deliberately set that fire, it's negligence through depraved indifference and that's not what he was he was charged with or convicted of. Why are the tapped conversations with Stacy being release? Not at all. Go find a law library and start reading or pay for the privilege to access one online The more Goodhair ,TDCJ and the Pro DP fanatics cover up the worse it looks for them . It's the least you can do, biatch! He was 78 years old. He said that he yelled at her and then exited the house, leaving Amber and the twin infants inside to die. Whether he set the fire or not doesn't matter to them one itoa. We know this for a fact. Their actions seem to indicate ther isa lot riding on this case than originally taught . However, if Mr. Martin and Mr. Willingham discussed the pseudo-scientific test that Mr. Martin and his fellow attorney performed (which I find plausible), then Mr. Martin would be on very thin ice with respect to this privilege, absent a very good reason. Cameron Todd Willingham - Wikipedia Mr. Kuykendall was a. It does not help your position.I am unaware of his attorney repeating any confidential communications of Willingham. This scumbag murderer LIED about everything. "That seems quite a leap to deem that negligence amounting to depraved indifference, at least as I understand the term. It sounds more like you were in firefighting school at College Station. "And you wonder why I FIRMLY believe and stake my life on it and that of my beloved murdered brother James, that Cameron Todd Willingham was indeed guilty. He was born in Henrietta, TX on September 24, 1928 to Theodore and Sarah E. Harvey Kuykendall. "Disclosing a work product is a violation of attorney client privilege, and Mr. Martin did this by discussing the carpet-burning test that he repeatedly did during Anderson Cooper's interview. Obituary | O W Kuykendall of CYPRESS, Texas | Klein Funeral Homes and Anonymous at 8:15,What am I missing here? We're not supposed to execute people for being what we don't want them to be.We do charge, convict and execute people who deliberately and willfully murder others. Anon 1:10,I would agree with you completely and as far as I am concerned your argument makes perfect sense to me. My post was in reply to someone else's post that was hotly defending Willingham's conviction.If there was a confession on tape pr anywhere else it would have been used to slap the rest of us down. Also, he could have gotten at least one of the children out of that house. The only definition of justice for these people is deference to authority and power. Let's stop protecting ourselves and make Texas a better state. No lawyer with integrity would so slander a dead client to save face.No lawyer can slander the dead. If there was a conversation it would be available.Through long posts here I would say there is reasonable doubt. Just for the record, for all of you who think this guy got a fair trial to begin with, how many of you would feel comfortable having Willingham's attorney represent you in a murder trial and have complete confidence that he would do his best for you and present an aggressive and competent defense? One viewer of the Anderson video said that at first he thought that Mr. Martin was the prosecutor! As the New Yorker's David Grann pointed out, her recent statement: directly contradicts numerous previous . "we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.We don't know that because the evidence hasn't been properly re-interpreted. His birthdate was 1837. Moreover, as I have demonstrated above, defending oneself is not the same thing as declaring your client guilty beyond question. Stacy Kiykendall. After everything I've seen and read, I would have to say no he did not to all of the above. Meanwhile you have not produced one scintilla of evidence to say otherwise or in any way shape or form to defend your position. Stacy Kuykendall - Facebook He is preceded in death by his parents and a grandson, Bryan Adam Biggs. By holding parents to that standard, you would obligate a parent to remain in a burning building until they can safely ensure their children have already escaped the building. Your defense of Martin and his actions is no more than a feeble grasping at straws to defend a fast sinking ship. The aystem needa fixing big time, big deal Time to fix it . It is marked P. Kuykendall, died at 75 years old, Sept. 15, 1912. Susan (Stafford) Kuykendall, Age 77, of Coal City, Illinois (formerly of Minooka/Channahon, Illinois), died peacefully, surrounded by her family on January 11, 2023, after a valiant battle with ALS. Obituaries | Jacksonville Daily Progress We all have to live with the tragic loss of our beloved brother. She was known as a caretaker to everyone . Mr. Martin ought to be ashamed of himself for violating professional norms.Although you found time to utter the falsehoods I have debunked above, you did not challenge my main points. Maybe you can write you story based on the facts you have and put it out in the media. Calling your intergity into question if not saying you are to blame for Ms Kuyendell's troubles . Anonymous cyber bully If a person no matter who they are makes drastically conflicting statements to the media they can most certainly expect to be questioned about it a . So what? Shame on you! Human rights and justice isn't real high on the list of values! DAIVD KUYKENDALL Obituary (2022) - Hueytown, AL - AL.com So two weeks before his execution Willingham's brainstorm to save his ass was to confess to the mother of the three babies he murdered, after having 13 years to think about it, in the hope this would convince her to write a letter asking for clemency?Really?For some really bizarre reason I'm reminded of the famous quote of Oliver Wendell Holmes, the former Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court who said, "three generations of imbeciles are enough! Interesting progression. We're not supposed to charge, convict and execute people for being the kind of human being we don't approve of.
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